Here is a list of races (and extra stat charts and classes at bottom) we should have in the game :

Dwarf : A shorter and stronger human. They usually smith or mine for materials to sell to the smiths. They are warriors - in other words, spells are NOT their forte.

STR : +3
DEX : 0
CON : +2
INT : -2
WIS : -2
POW - 1
CHA : -1

Gnome : The small, magical creatures known as gnomes have enough magical power to slaughter a red ant in one hit at level ONE. However, their status points in Hit points and strength are lower than hell...

STR : -5
DEX : +1
CON : -3
INT : +3
WIS : +3
POW : +1
CHA : -5

Elf : The skilled and powerful bow men of the woodlands. The second you get a bow or a spear, you can take down men faster than you could say "Cheese it!" (that made NO sense, right? good.) They can be ok mages, and have good stats for anything that needs dexterity.

STR : +1
DEX : +4
CON : +1
INT : 0
WIS : 0
POW : 0
CHA : 0

Halfing : The half man ( a genetic mutation caused by a strange spur, also known as a hobbit in LOTR ) has the perfect stats for being a cleric or farmer. Yeah, strange...but a good cleric always helps.

STR : +2
DEX : 0
CON : +1
INT : +1
WIS : +2
POW : +1
CHA : +3

Giantman : A large man with a ton of strength, but low, um... everything else. They would be great tankers!

STR : +9
DEX : -2
CON : -2
INT : -1
WIS : -1
POW : -2
CHA : -1

Classes

Ok, i think you should be able to choose a basic class that evolves into something else. Your job level should raise through using skills learned (through that job class, of course. Skills = Opposite of Spells). You gain a job level every one hundred EXP : you get a cut off based on the amount of EXP gained. Lvl fourty job class is MAX.

___________Paladin(level 40 JB)
______Knight (level 20 JB)-------------> Mage knight (get level 30 with MA spells, MB)
Warrior (starter)
______Barbarian(level 20 JB) ---------> Dark Knight (get level thirty with two other skills than CLW)
___________Raider(level 40 JB)

 
Theif ----> Rouge (lvl 20 JB)----> Assassin (lvl 40 JB)

Hmm, to be edited later, i have to go take care of something. Rate this if ya want to, or give some constructive critisim.

This has been mentioned... a hundred times or more. What we need is race gfx, not race stats. Make a good dwarf gfx before b4 is implemented and MT may use it.

They are supposed to be unbalanced. It is supposed to show diversity between races. And ele, that post made NO sense. What races were you referring to? Ok, here. www.play.net   -> GO CHECK THE RACES CHART. They have the most UNBALANCED status bonuses for races to show that some people are better at things than others. And the GFX? WHO CARES!! They are just small sprites, and we don't need that more than anything else - we need the ability to have better choices for our stats.

We also need more than just 5 points to spend... maybe 10 or 15, but not five.

They are really unblanaced and unrealistic for sure IMO.  They need work.

For example:
Giant Man -1 CHA vs. Gnome - 5 CHA
Halfling Has + 10 and no disadvantages. (You are obviously a fan of the Tolkien series and this effects your judgement)
Elves +0 WIS/INT/POW. In every game I have ever played elves have been considered very magical beings.

Let the first step be introducing balanced characters into the game. Second, lets modify the armours so only a dwarf is the right fit for his size armour. Then once there is a strong base, shift everything a little bit here and a little bit there to make it appear like it's unbalanced (when obviously we have taken the time to do exactly the opposite) www.play.net most likely has an entirely different game structure. +10 over there might be equivalent to + 200 over here.

As for classes... This is extremely hard to do unless your trying to please only yourself. It might be easier to simply introduce guilds which are VERY Broad in scope, Wizard, Mercenary, Priest and then allow people to mix and match tradeskills to come up with thier own insane classes.

What we need is race gfx, not race stats

And the GFX? WHO CARES!!

The real problem with races is having the sprites for it (animated gfx).

Point proven... Asuruga did you expect the dwarves and giants and halflings to all look like humans?

@ Ratix Well until we get to beteer gfz being done, we could do that Ratix, cos I really like havin lotsa races. Also, I agree with having them add to a set number

@ Hune I beleive that a set number like 12 was used, and then +5= starting on 17 or -2 means starting on 10.

Gnome? a magical creature, i would prefer sorcerer, mage, wizard, sorry but the only thing that i dont like, aside what has been mentioned, is the name of the gnome lol i would like to see a sorcerer, mage or wizard type? please?

Right now planned for B4 both humans and half-elves spawn in a small village in the Human plane. When more races like dwarves and full elves come in it won't make sense for them to spawn in the same place. So I propose there be a home plane for each race where they start and train to about level 10 or 20 then move on to the Demon plane where all the races co-exist. Also about classes I think it would be cool to choose a class by joining that classes guild. So if you want to be a sorceror you join the sorceror's guild where you get all your sorceror related quests ans skills.